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This page is the central coordination point of the 0.9.0 QT4 Strings review campaign  
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This page is the central coordination point of the 0.9.0 QT4 Strings review campaign, part of [[QtIntfTODO|Things to be done for the QT Interface]]
  
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See the [http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/1214 ticket on trac]. 
 
== People interested ==
 
== People interested ==
 
Please sign with three tildes <nowiki>(~~~)</nowiki>
 
Please sign with three tildes <nowiki>(~~~)</nowiki>
 
* [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]
 
* [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]
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* [[User:J-b|jb]]
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* [[User:Plouj|Plouj]]
  
 
== Discussion ==
 
== Discussion ==
 
We have a new QT4 interface and it needs to be in English.  Discuss any issues here.
 
We have a new QT4 interface and it needs to be in English.  Discuss any issues here.
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* Check the English of all strings.  Fix it.  Have someone else do it again to be sure you didn't mess something up or make something too ambiguous. 
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* There is no need to change error-output strings, as it is probably best that they remain in their original form so that they can still be found easily.  If you find any repeated error-outputs (same text for different events), inform a developer. 
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* If you find any code being sent to stderr via fprintf(stderr) rather than msg_Error, inform a developer (unless you know how to fix it). 
  
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subversion command for checking out just the QT4 code: <code>
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=== Subversion ===
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* subversion command for checking out just the QT4 code:  
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<code>
 
svn checkout svn://svn.videolan.org/vlc/trunk/modules/gui/qt4 QT4Strings
 
svn checkout svn://svn.videolan.org/vlc/trunk/modules/gui/qt4 QT4Strings
 
</code>
 
</code>
  
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J-B says dialogs are free to work on at this point.  --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:17, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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=== Nightlies ===
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* You can also use a nightly build to spot errors
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=== What to do ===
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* [[User:J-b|jb]] says dialogs are free to work on at this point.  --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:17, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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* Menus and systray Menu too. [[User:J-b|jb]] 08:11, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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* Menus, then main interface, then tooltips, then anything remaining.  --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:34, 25 October 2007 (CEST) (via j-b on IRC)
  
 
== Progress ==
 
== Progress ==
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Code checked out, beginning dialogs work as per J-B --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:16, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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* When you begin working on a file, if necessary add it to the table, then assign your name to it.  Once you finish it, mark it appropriately. 
  
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I'm working on errors.?pp and extended.?pp --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:18, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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=== /modules/gui/qt4/util ===
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{| border="1" cellspacing="0"
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! File || First reviewer ||Done?|| Second reviewer ||Done?|| Current status
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|customwidgets.cpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|customwidgets.hpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|input_slider.cpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|input_slider.hpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|qvlcframe.hpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||Only Debug Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|registry.cpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|registry.hpp||[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]]||*||*||*||No Strings -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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=== /modules/gui/qt4/ ===
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{| border="1" cellspacing="0"
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! File || First reviewer ||Done?|| Second reviewer ||Done?|| Current status
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|main_interface.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] || FX  || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Copy edited the Privacy & Network Warning message -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|main_interface.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|input_manager.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|input_manager.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|-
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|dialogs_provider.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] || FX  || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Changed playlist open and save dialog titles, change subtitles open dialog title -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|dialogs_provider.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|menus.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] || FX  || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Changed subtitles submenu "Load file..." to "Open file..." -[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
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|menus.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|qt4.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|qt4.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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=== Dialogs ===
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=== /modules/gui/qt4/dialogs ===
 
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! File || First reviewer ||Done?|| Second reviewer ||Done?|| Current status
 
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|errors.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||X|| || || 1 string, changed --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|errors.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||FX|| [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] ||F || 1 string, changed --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|errors.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||*||*||*|| No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|extended.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||FX|| [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] ||FX || 3 Strings, 1 change ("Synchro."->"Synchronisation") [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] 04:14, 13 Apr 2008 (CEST)
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|extended.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||*||*||*|| No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:06, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|gototime.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||FX|| [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] ||F || 6 strings, 3 left, 2 changed ("Go to time:" instead of long sentence, lowercase "time" in title), 1 removed (name of 'groupbox' is redundant) --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:12, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|gototime.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||*||*||*|| No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:13, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|help.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||PX|| [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] ||FX || 11 strings, 2 are paths, 4 changes [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] 04:14, 13 Apr 2008 (CEST)
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|help.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||*||*||*|| No strings [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 17:27, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 
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|errors.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||X||*||*|| No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|interaction.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||PX|| [[User:Plouj|Plouj]] ||F || 4 strings (2 were error), <del>changed Login >> Username</del>, replaced a fprintf(stderr) with a msg_Error [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 17:47, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
 
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|extended.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||X|| || || 3 Strings, 3 changes --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:04, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|interaction.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||*||*||*|| No Strings
 
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|extended.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||X||*||*|| No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:06, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|bookmarks.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || * || No Strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
 
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|gototime.cpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] ||X|| || || 6 strings, 3 left, 2 changed ("Go to time:" instead of long sentence, lowercase "time" in title), 1 removed (name of 'groupbox' is redundant) --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 02:12, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
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|bookmarks.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
 
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|gototime.hpp|| [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || ||  || ||
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|messages.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Changed one dialog title, one dialog box error message, one hotkey (both close and clear used &C, changed clear to &l) --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|messages.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] || * || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|open.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || * || No strings --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|open.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|playlist.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || * || No strings worth changing (only "Playlist" as title) --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|playlist.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|podcast.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Delete >> Deletes for tooltip --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|podcast.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|preferences.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || Change Reset preferences question to be more succinct; tooltips: complete >> full, "Switch to [] preferences" >> "Switch to [] preferences view" --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST) 
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|preferences.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|sout.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || tooltips: update >> change; "Save file" >> "Save file..."; ** NOTE: NOT CHANGED, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE:  "WAV" audio codec >> "PCM" with an option for big or little endian and even 8/16/32 maybe?) --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|sout.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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|vlm.cpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||PX || [[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] || L || buttons: Import / Export >> I&mport / E&xport; "Choose a filename to save the VLM configuration..." >> "Save VLM configuration as..."; "Open a VLM Configuration File" >> "Open VLM configuration..." --[[User:Tonsofpcs|tonsofpcs]] 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
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|vlm.hpp|| [[User:J-b|jb]] ||* || * || * || No strings [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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=== /modules/gui/qt4/components ===
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Done. [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:38, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
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=== /modules/gui/qt4/ui ===
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Done. [[User:J-b|jb]] 22:38, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
  
 
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[[Category:Dev Discussions]]

Latest revision as of 15:11, 1 October 2013

This page is the central coordination point of the 0.9.0 QT4 Strings review campaign, part of Things to be done for the QT Interface

See the ticket on trac.

People interested

Please sign with three tildes (~~~)

Discussion

We have a new QT4 interface and it needs to be in English. Discuss any issues here.

  • Check the English of all strings. Fix it. Have someone else do it again to be sure you didn't mess something up or make something too ambiguous.
  • There is no need to change error-output strings, as it is probably best that they remain in their original form so that they can still be found easily. If you find any repeated error-outputs (same text for different events), inform a developer.
  • If you find any code being sent to stderr via fprintf(stderr) rather than msg_Error, inform a developer (unless you know how to fix it).

Subversion

  • subversion command for checking out just the QT4 code:

svn checkout svn://svn.videolan.org/vlc/trunk/modules/gui/qt4 QT4Strings

Nightlies

  • You can also use a nightly build to spot errors

What to do

  • jb says dialogs are free to work on at this point. --tonsofpcs 01:17, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
  • Menus and systray Menu too. jb 08:11, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
  • Menus, then main interface, then tooltips, then anything remaining. --tonsofpcs 02:34, 25 October 2007 (CEST) (via j-b on IRC)

Progress

  • When you begin working on a file, if necessary add it to the table, then assign your name to it. Once you finish it, mark it appropriately.

/modules/gui/qt4/util

File First reviewer Done? Second reviewer Done? Current status
customwidgets.cpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
customwidgets.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
input_slider.cpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
input_slider.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
qvlcframe.hpp tonsofpcs * * * Only Debug Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
registry.cpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
registry.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings -tonsofpcs 15:47, 13 August 2008 (CEST)

/modules/gui/qt4/

File First reviewer Done? Second reviewer Done? Current status
main_interface.cpp jb FX tonsofpcs L Copy edited the Privacy & Network Warning message -tonsofpcs 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
main_interface.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
input_manager.cpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
input_manager.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
dialogs_provider.cpp jb FX tonsofpcs L Changed playlist open and save dialog titles, change subtitles open dialog title -tonsofpcs 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
dialogs_provider.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
menus.cpp jb FX tonsofpcs L Changed subtitles submenu "Load file..." to "Open file..." -tonsofpcs 20:41, 13 August 2008 (CEST)
menus.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
qt4.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
qt4.cpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:32, 9 July 2008 (CEST)

/modules/gui/qt4/dialogs

File First reviewer Done? Second reviewer Done? Current status
errors.cpp tonsofpcs FX Plouj F 1 string, changed --tonsofpcs 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
errors.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No strings --tonsofpcs 01:58, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
extended.cpp tonsofpcs FX Plouj FX 3 Strings, 1 change ("Synchro."->"Synchronisation") Plouj 04:14, 13 Apr 2008 (CEST)
extended.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No strings --tonsofpcs 02:06, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
gototime.cpp tonsofpcs FX Plouj F 6 strings, 3 left, 2 changed ("Go to time:" instead of long sentence, lowercase "time" in title), 1 removed (name of 'groupbox' is redundant) --tonsofpcs 02:12, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
gototime.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No strings --tonsofpcs 02:13, 27 June 2007 (CEST)
help.cpp tonsofpcs PX Plouj FX 11 strings, 2 are paths, 4 changes Plouj 04:14, 13 Apr 2008 (CEST)
help.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No strings tonsofpcs 17:27, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
interaction.cpp tonsofpcs PX Plouj F 4 strings (2 were error), changed Login >> Username, replaced a fprintf(stderr) with a msg_Error tonsofpcs 17:47, 13 July 2007 (CEST)
interaction.hpp tonsofpcs * * * No Strings
bookmarks.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs * No Strings --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
bookmarks.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
messages.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs L Changed one dialog title, one dialog box error message, one hotkey (both close and clear used &C, changed clear to &l) --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
messages.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
open.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs * No strings --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
open.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
playlist.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs * No strings worth changing (only "Playlist" as title) --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
playlist.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
podcast.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs L Delete >> Deletes for tooltip --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
podcast.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
preferences.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs L Change Reset preferences question to be more succinct; tooltips: complete >> full, "Switch to [] preferences" >> "Switch to [] preferences view" --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
preferences.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
sout.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs L tooltips: update >> change; "Save file" >> "Save file..."; ** NOTE: NOT CHANGED, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE: "WAV" audio codec >> "PCM" with an option for big or little endian and even 8/16/32 maybe?) --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
sout.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)
vlm.cpp jb PX tonsofpcs L buttons: Import / Export >> I&mport / E&xport; "Choose a filename to save the VLM configuration..." >> "Save VLM configuration as..."; "Open a VLM Configuration File" >> "Open VLM configuration..." --tonsofpcs 03:21, 20 August 2008 (CEST)
vlm.hpp jb * * * No strings jb 22:18, 9 July 2008 (CEST)

/modules/gui/qt4/components

Done. jb 22:38, 9 July 2008 (CEST)

/modules/gui/qt4/ui

Done. jb 22:38, 9 July 2008 (CEST)

For the done columns:

L = Done locally, not submitted
S = SVN Checked in
P = patch submitted
F = entire file submitted (in other words, no changes were needed)
PX = Patch submitted, checked in
FX = File submitted, checked in

* No strings, nothing to do

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